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Post by pershainovitsh on Jun 28, 2012 18:07:07 GMT 1
Well, it was a Club 3d Geforce 9800 GT with a 512MB memory, and there were no BIOS's for it (only 1024MB) so we went with a ASUS GF 9800GT 512MB BIOS update. And it seems it wasn't the best thing to do. I tried to stop my father but he wouldn't listen.
I should be able to check my favorites and my component list when I get the new GFX card and after that I'll order the parts. I'll update when something new comes up.
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Post by backtothefight64 on Jun 28, 2012 21:42:03 GMT 1
The GTX560 ti is a good choice for bang/buck, with the quad core CPU you should be able to run BF3 on high/ultra with sufficient FPS no problem. Just double check it's the 'ti' version  Spartan, I know Al is on tight budget, to save him some money do you think he should be able to get by with 8gb of ram ? I have 8gb and I've never noticed much more than 4gb being used when running BF3. |
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Post by tazimafied on Jun 29, 2012 2:14:51 GMT 1
You bring up a good point BTTF. I am only running 6 Gigs of DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) and have no issues with memory usage.
Al, I sincerely hope that you can get up and running until you get the new parts. I have been in your situation before. I was running two cards at the time and both went at the same time. Fortunatly ASUS has a three year warrenty and I was able to get them replaced at only the cost of shipping.
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Post by Spartan0536 on Jun 29, 2012 3:58:54 GMT 1
The 16GB of memory is quite a lot I agree, however the RAM is a 2x Dual Channel kit and his motherboard supports this making his machine faster also while making sure he is solid on RAM for years to come. Its his choice , if he want to go with 8GB which is what I have, thats fine too.
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jun 29, 2012 6:26:54 GMT 1
I should be getting my new ASUS (yeah, couldn't get the EVGA) GTX 560 Ti today. That means I can use the internet on MY computer (posting on the Mac again) and can use Teamspeak. Hopefully. I have other things to do in the evening, so even if I do get my computer working, it doesn't mean I will certainly be chatting on TS.
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Post by swfwebmaster on Jun 29, 2012 11:52:15 GMT 1
Continue to keep us updated. Here's hoping your computer situation improves in the near future. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jun 30, 2012 11:49:45 GMT 1
Got the new graphics card. Unfortunately I only have one "cable" for it so it would only work on half power. When trying to boot, it wouldn't work. Turned out, it requires 550 W while my power supply only gives 500 W. The old card is in the trash can since it's broken from the software side (BIOS update that didn't work...) and from the hardware side I think (hasn't been cleaned for years... with the next computer I will clean it regularly. I simply didn't know you have to clean it so I didn't)
So I can't use my computer at all right now. Posting on the Mac as usual. I'll order the components this weekend, we'll see how long will it take to get them. I'm not going to even try setting up Teamspeak on the Mac even if it is possible (?) so you won't be hearing my voice anywhere but in your thoughts for the next two or so weeks. In the meantime, Scriv, try to play Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory single player. I want you to be ready for some co-op once I get my new rig set up! Playing Ghost Recon wouldn't hurt either.
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Post by swfwebmaster on Jun 30, 2012 16:01:29 GMT 1
Hang in there, Al.
Alright, I will try to get the Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory single player up and running. As you know, I have it installed.
Will your new computer be able to play ArmA 2?
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jun 30, 2012 20:06:05 GMT 1
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jul 1, 2012 15:00:48 GMT 1
About those cases... Originally Spartan recommended the NZXT Phantom 410 ATX case, but there are a couple of things here: that's the only component I'm buying but Jimm's isn't selling. So I'd have to order the case from a separate store from the rest of the components. It's also quite expensive. That's why I thought the Coolermaster Scout would be good. It's just a bit smaller than the NZXT... www.jimms.fi/tuote/SGC-2000-KKN1-GPSo I'm not sure whether all the parts would fit. But it's about 50 euros cheaper. Another one I could buy is the Antec Eleven Hundred: www.jimms.fi/tuote/0-761345-15950-0It's about the same price as the NZXT, slightly bigger, has one less fan coming with the package and it can be ordered from Jimm's. I also switched from the 750W power supply to a 800 W one. And I think I'm going to get another CPU cooler, the one Spartan suggested is a monster and I think I could save some money on that department by going for a smaller one. I'll see what I'll come up with. |
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Post by wobblyone on Jul 1, 2012 16:35:34 GMT 1
And I think I'm going to get another CPU cooler, the one Spartan suggested is a monster and I think I could save some money on that department by going for a smaller one. I'll see what I'll come up with. I wouldn't cut corners with coolers Al, it is THE most important component. It's no good spending weeks deciding on a processor if it burns up ;D Same with the case. You want lots of room and cooling options for the future. A good choice will last you all the rigs you will build in the future. A couple of good-uns IMO are: Corsair 600T Coolermaster CM690 Good luck  |
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jul 1, 2012 18:19:38 GMT 1
About casesThe Antec Eleven Hundred should be a good and big case (bigger than NZXT) and has one 200mm fan on the top and one 120mm fan on the back. It's about the same price as the NZXT, 120 euros. The Coolermaster is a bit smaller but has three fans: 140mm in the front, 140mm in the top and a 120mm in the back. And it's 50 euros cheaper. Why I'd rather get the Antec than the NZXT: so I don't have to register to yet another site to order just that component from another store. About coolersThe huge Zalman cooler should be compatible with the processor (AM3+ AMD FX-4170) assuming that AM3 compatibility means AM3+ com but I'm not sure about its compatibility with the motherboard. Would this be good? www.jimms.fi/tuote/AK-CC017It's compatible with the processor and fits in the case, but I'm worried about motherboard compatibility. On the motherboard page (on Jimm's) it only says it supports LGA coolers and doesn't mention AM (AM2, AM3 etc) coolers at all. But the cooler I linked does support Intel's LGA models. So can I use that cooler with that motherboard and that processor? It's a bit bigger than the Zalman but costs 20 e less. And I really don't know about the pins and how many does the mobo support, or should I be checking if the processor supports a certain amount of pins? The case, the power supply and the cooler are the only things I want to change. The case because of reasons mentioned earlier, power supply from 750W to 800W because of more power and cheaper price and the cooler to save money and make it less intimidating. I'll try to order the parts early next week. (monday is the first day of week over here) If you still have something to say, go ahead.
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Post by backtothefight64 on Jul 1, 2012 20:52:19 GMT 1
Coolers are made to suite the CPU, so intel designed coolers will not be suitable for AMD. As you rightly say they are big so consider buying low profile ram because the cooling fins can be in the way of the fan.
The smaller case you suggest will probably be ok if you don't intend to use 2 gpu's at some point. Same goes for the motherboard, don't waste money on a SLI/crossfire board if you won't be using it. Also you don't need 800w for a one card system. My Gtx570 runs fine on a 550w power supply and the online power calculator came up with a power usage of about 450w for my system.
But as Wobbly said, do think hard about your future requirements for the case and power supply as money spent wisely now can save you money in the future.
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Post by wobblyone on Jul 2, 2012 0:04:25 GMT 1
Al, check out this site before deciding on a cooler www.frostytech.com/I went for the Noctua NH-C14 after lots of research. This was because my case couldn't take most conventional air coolers due to their height. But because the Noctua is low and wide I have lost the option of two graphics cards in SLI. (and my sound card is rubbing up against it)  This is why I stress the importance of a good roomy case. |
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Post by pershainovitsh on Jul 2, 2012 7:03:26 GMT 1
Well, having a big case and power supply and a good motherboard can save money later when I upgrade my computer again. (although this isn't upgrading, I'm building from scratch apart from taking some cables and the sound card from my old computer) BTTF is saying that coolers are made to suite the CPU. But from what I've seen, many coolers are compatible with both AMD and Intel processors. Like that enormous Noctua cooler. translate.google.fi/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jimms.fi%2Ftuote%2F990FX-PROFESSIONAL&act=urlAs you can see, it says that the motherboard is compatible with coolers that support Intel's LGA. But I still don't know whether I can use an AMD cooler with it or not. Or does it just mean you can use two (LGA) coolers at once? Does the motherboard play any role with the compatibility of the CPU cooler? Or is the combo cooler about CPU coolers at all? The AsRock does support AM3+ processors. |
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