Everything you need to know about BF3: Wpn & Veh

[repcommando377]

hey guys, now that alot of us has a computer that is able to run bf3, we start to ask questions about the game.

which gun is the best for which class?
which attachments do u bring for guns?
which perks do u use for vehicles?
how do u avoid missles that locked onto u?
etc...

first thing i want you guys to check out is this site
symthic.com/?s=bf3&sb=dmgchart
this is the real deal of the stats in the game. dont go by the bullcrap that they put out on battlelog. it might be overwhelming at first, but spending a good 15-30 min will allow you to attain a plethora of knowledge. this site will tell you stats of every gun as well as tell you which guns are winning and which are as good as throwing pebbles. if you have any questions just ask me on teamspeak or shoot me a msg though battlelog

second thign I want you guys to check out is vids by this guy

he does decent tutorials and can help answer questions about flying jets and choppers.

things over all about jets (F35 sucks balls btw unless u use it as a transport vehicle- it can pretty much only kill choppers cause ground assets as well as jets eat F35 up for breakfast)

• how to avoid javelins/guided shells or heat seekers
  tight downward turns preferably through or around objects/mountains/building and hope that the missile hits it. Javelins/Guided shells are slower and more maneuverable=deadly.
  
• When you're getting locked on you can tell by the color of the "LOCK"-symbol
  Red means: Javelin, Guided shell, Guided missile, SOFLAM
  Yellow means: FIM-91 Stinger, SA-18 IGLA or heat-seekers
  
• when in jet u should be using:
  air radar,flares/ecm rocket
  beam scanning, flares/ecm, heatseekers/ guided shell
  

for choppers

• mi-28 is crappier then cobra, mi 28 turns very slowly and feels very heavy despite having same armor rating as cobra
  
• dont fly at high altitudes, ur sitting ducks for jets. fly NAP. get close to the ground and hug it almost. pull above the treeline to attack. always try to flank or hit it in the back as a good straffling run with gunner can disable and even kill a tank
  
• when in chopper u should be using:
  pilot: air radar, heat seekers, ecm or laser painter, heat seekers, ecm/extinguisher
  gunner: auto reloader/ air radar, tv missle/ guided shell, flares/ thermo optics
  

for tanks

• at long ranges it is easier to calibrate ur tank aim with a t-90 compared to a Abrams. reason is that ur aiming reticule has ticks and with experience you can guesstimate the range of the enemy. (however i still prever Abrams sights)
  
• you have most armor up front, and okay armor on sides. always try to engage the enemy with ur frontal armor while flanking.
  
• when in tanks you should use:
  tank destroyer: reactive armor, thermo optics(i prefer this as u can see mines)/ smoke, guided shell
  infantry meatsheild: reactive armor, thermo optics/ smoke, canister shot(hard at first to use but once u get used to it u can dominate enemy infantry as canister shot has virtually no bullet drop)
  
  NEVER USE HMG AS UR WEAPONS PERK. ITS WORSE THEN UR GUNNERS 50 CAL
  

and remember teamwork is key to success and only fails when the enemy team spams rockets or are full of colonel ranked soldiers... or on metro...

i will try to bring my infantry combat insight another time

[wobblyone]

Thanks Rep, usefull stuff. I've not done much flying yet, but this will help a lot.

Cheers ;D

[madviper101]

Thanks Rep great post some really useful tips there. Must try to start flying soon. The gun chart looks good but I think may take a bit of looking at to fully understand.
Nice to see a positive Battlefield 3 thread. Lets please have more

[backtothefight64]

Yeah nice info Rep, even got me thinking about dusting off my joystick.

But IO is my first love, hopefully this video will help with the gun damage chart:



........ gunning definitely feels more like BC2. In BF2 I always used the L85, always went prone and always fired on single shot for accuracy. I only used auto when going around corners for close quarters.
I think the main difference was the fact you could start firing as soon as you had hit the prone button. With BF3 the animated prone takes a few seconds to complete before you can start firing, so it's faster to crouch and fire. Also a couple of quick burst on auto helps to maintain accuracy as opposed to just holding the mouse button down.


Surviving The Meat Grinder.

Metro, love it or hate it, it is a great fast paced blast. To survive:

Avoid large numbers, because of its size your enemy will be everywhere and it can make for a frustrating round, 16players is a lot easier.

It's a narrow map so try to stick to the sides, one less angle to be shot from.

There's loads of cover, bins, vending machines etc use it as you advance.

Stick with your squad ( preferably medics ) and you'll probably out number anyone you meet and the last man standing will revive the rest of the squad if your lucky.

'Fools rush in' ...... don't be in too much of a rush to get to the next flag, there could be someone waiting for you........probably me

The flags are close, so if your taking one and losing the next one be ready for the counter attack and have the advantage ..............it's defending not camping.

Don't get tunnel vision in your pursuit of the the next flag, it's narrow and easy to keep checking left and right as go. Carriages, shops, passage ways.... there's every chance someone will be using them.

Flag A, I like the partly boarded shop opposite the flag, counter gives you a bit of cover, limited entry easy to cover.

Flag B, some good cover on outer edge of flag zone and the raised shrub borders. When attacking from C the furthest escalator brings you up behind the defenders and can be handy for some cheap kills.

Flag C, good luck !


Hey and if all else fails there's always Caspian Border

[repcommando377]

LOL MEAT GRINDER Metro= usas + frag, m320, rpg , m249 w/ flashlight& foregrip

Anyways now I'm just goign to talk about recommended weapons of each class and what I would attach on them.

Assault:

Best all around gun: M416.
My favorite gun in BF3 since the beta, this gun has never failed me in my time of need. Whenever I'm on a death streak, I jump back to this gun since its the most reliable. It has a decent rate of fire and has great controllability. gun will slightly dance up and to the right a little bit if you full auto it. At long range- use bursts, the gun does not perform as well but its a solid weapon for mid range firefights I always equip fore grip and silencer on it, holographic [hold]
[Note] the next patch WILL not affect the gun at all. (only attachments) What you see now is what you get.

Best close range gun: Famas, F2000, AEK971 (in this order)
I have mixed opinions on this category due to the nature of each gun. Many people would argue with my ranking but heres my justification.

Famas is another favorite gun of mine, but some people find it as both overpowered and absolutely horrible. Famas is the absolute champion of close range combat as it has the fastest fire rate, thus allowing it to have the quickest time to kill. However at mid range, the gun starts to stumble as the recoil is so high. As long as you fire in short bursts, Famas will still be very effective and your be surprised with how many headshots u can get. Again b/c of the fast fire rate, controlling the gun is hard at longer ranges but as long as u aim for the chest (longer range means aim lower) u will easily get a headshot as the gun will jump up. I would always put suppressor and foregrip on it, holographic [holo]
[Note] In next patch the magazine size will be changed to 25, which i believe is a debuff due to its super fast firing rate, your go through the clip very fast and FAMAS has one of the longest reloads

F2000. At the moment this gun is very limited in its uses and can ONLY be used in close quarters due to its high recoil from the high rate of fire. Anything from mid to long range is out of the question even when firing in burst. The reason is that the initial recoil (once you start firing, the amount of recoil at first) for F2000 is very high due to the previous patch. Neverthless the F2000 is a great gun for up close and personal fighting and does very well on maps like bazzar and metro. Again foregrip and suppressor and holographic [holo]
[Note] In the next patch, F2000 will be rebuffed slightly. This is why its ranked 2 and not 3 (although ATM it should be #3)

AEK971. ATM this gun is wonderful. Its the best close quarters gun that can also engage in mid range combat. Again it has very high rate of fire, thus making the control slightly hard if u where to fire it at full auto. ATM the AEK has very low initial recoil, thus you will be able to kill the target well before the heavy recoil sets in. If you dont down the guy within 10 shots, you should stop the burst and try again. Foregrip & Suppressor (red dot or holographic [holo])
[Note] In the next patch this gun will be debuffed in the next patch- initial recoil will be increased and thus will possibly become even worse then the F2000.

Best Mid-Long range: L85A2, KH2002, G3a3
L85A2. A BF2 classic, this gun slightly disappointed me when I first used it. It performed poorly in close quarters and did not excel at mid range firefights UNTIL I unlocked some attachments. I put foregrip and silencer as well as Acog/ or M145 and it performs wonderfully. Gun will kick up and right slightly. Thus from mid range, just hold down ur burst and move ur aim down once you start firing and your kill them very fast. L85A2 should not be used in close range and will be a good choice if you are looking to engage the enemy at a distance.
[Note] This gun will be buffed as having less recoil next patch. Will make it even better at mid to long range engagements.

G3A3. Spartans favorite assault rifle is not my favorite assault rifle but I have to give it credit nevertheless. the G3 fires heavier caliber bullets that do more damage than normal assault rifle but it fires them at a slower rate and has high recoil. This allows it to also function as another alternative to a sniper rifle that can do full auto. I personally do not like this gun as if you want a gun that fires heavier rounds wile wanting it to remain a non bolt action gun, you might as well just use the EMR or MK11. Both these guns do higher damage (which also doesnt level off after 60 meters). Foregrip/Bipod, Silencer/ heavy barrel, Acog or 8X scope/
[Note} Gun will be slightly buffed in as having less recoil

KH2002. Ive only used it today and I love it. yes it kinda looks ugly but its a great gun. this burst fire weapon has less vertical recoil with no attachments compared to a M16A4 with foregrip AND suppressor. firerate on the KH2002 is very fast (faster than the m416 but slower then AEK) and can even be used in close quarters to great effect. I will do more testing with this gun in the future but as of now its one of my new favorites.
[Note] Gun will not be changed at all for next patch. What you see now is what you get.

Others:
M16A3: some people like it, I dont. It has decent rate of fire, and can do some good damage at a distance, but vertical recoil is very high. use acog or holographic [holo] foregrip, supressor.
Ak-74: used it for a few min, no impression

Burst fire weapons: (KH2002 is the best in my opinion)
Some burst fire weapons are great, and some just totally suck nuts. AN94's "feature specialty" of being able to fire 2 bullets and not have the recoil kick in DOES NOT WORK. firerate of this peice of nuts also sucks even when u put it on full auto. you might as well use the L85A2
Kh2002 looks helluva ugly but is a beast when you can use it right. It has equivalent firerate to M16A3, while maintaining low recoil on multiple bursts.
M16A4 feels EXATALY like the A3 varient but can only fire burst. I do not recommend using this gun as it just does not feel right. recoil is too high when you try to fire off multiple bursts.